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Re: Managing Expectations on the Festival Circuit

When I heard Hunter say he realized how small this industry was and how influential a very few are, I felt uncomfortable. I know how silly and uptight that makes me sound, but that’s how I felt. It’s the side of filmmaking I guess i’ve tried hard to ignore, but inevitably it has always been there. This is an industry that is based on who you know, and who knows you. Even my first few jobs after film school were the result of the connections I had made there. So the concept isn’t new to me, I just don’t like it. The main reason is that I am not a salesman. That is a quality I have never possessed. Do any of you see any way of working around this deficiency? Or is the answer suck it up? At least the plus side to what Hunter said, is that there are only a few…

One thing I might add to Stephanie’s list of things that filmmakers can get from festivals is a new fan’s metadata. If they like your work and sign up for your mailing list you now have their e-mail address and if you keep track of it, what town they are from. This can be invaluable to your current and future projects for DVD sales, future screenings, and a way to keep people up to date on what you are doing. And I think this can easily be done outside of festivals as well. As long as you have something out there that can drive new fans back to your website.

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JAMIE COBB knew at the age of 9 that she wanted to go to film school. Years later, she found editing to be her niche. Inspired by the guiding principles of Walter Murch and Andrei Tarkovsky, she has cut several short films and is currently editing her first feature-length motion picture, HEART OF NOW. She currently resides in Los Angeles

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Re: Managing Expectations on the Festival Circuit

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MIKE AMBS moved to Los Angeles in February 2004, from the small town in south eastern Michigan where he grew up. He is a certified graphic designer and a naturally talented editor, with a truly unique ability to capture life through a camera lens. In 2007 Mike won 1st place in the Network 2 “how to watch internet TV” video contest and in 2008 was a finalist in the Cannes Babelgum online film festival. Mike has worked as an editor and camera operator for NBC.com and is currently working as editor for the amazing internet show Epic-FU.

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RE: Managing Expectations on the Festival Circuit

I agree with a lot that has been said thus far and JJ I’ll buy you drink and we don’t have to be at a film festival. Another place for some great networking is the IFFM hosted by the IFP or whatever they are calling it these days.

My main beef with film festivals is that they should do revenue sharing with the filmmakers. How great would it be that a filmmaker walked away from Sundance or SXSW with a couple grand in their pocket. At least they would be walking away with something more than blown expectations. If not, I would suggest using a major film festival as a springboard into a release of some kind, why blow the press?

I don’t have grand expectations with film festivals. There is definitely a behind the scenes “old boys network” that program the festivals and if you don’t network at the “right” places then your film won’t be programmed.

I think they should go back to the way film festivals were treated a decade ago, when it was about the films and not the starlets. People focused on seeing films not all the parties surrounding them.

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I’m premiering my first independent feature ‘Play With Fire’ at the ReelHeART International Film Festival in Toronto, this June. This will be my first festival experience so I’m not sure what to expect. I can see when Zak says it is going to be great for networking and meeting people face to face, but I can also see how Stephanie says it can be a little haywire for meeting people, and you are not guaranteed to get the right audience in front of your movie. Either way, it’s going to be a great learning experience for myself and my producing partner, Soren Johnstone, and we are just going to go in with a good attitude and soak up as much as possible. As long as we can get some press and exposure out of it, great, were happy. The fact that we are going to be able to watch our first feature on the big screen in a 250 seat theater is the cream on the cake. That being said, as we have just recently finished our final cut, we are still developing our strategy for getting our film out. We are thinking about doing a bunch of smaller screenings, in different venues.. keeping it underground, spreading word of mouth that way, and definitely using the internet. We will see how festivals work in to everything.

Im excited to meet the filmmakers of NewBreed, discuss, and read more about their experiences. In the past few months since discovering NewBreed I have already learned quite a bit.

One thing I do want to say regarding festivals, is I am a little bit skeptical of services like WAB, that make it too easy for filmmakers to submit to many festivals. This overloads the festivals with submissions and it’s hard to not think that they might not take all the submissions as seriously. There are obviously some politics involved and it’s all about who you know right.. and I dont know anyone, so does it really help the unknown indie filmmaker with no money.. or hurt them?

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MIKE BABIARZ is an independent filmmaker/ graphic designer, based out of Vancouver BC. He is currently putting almost all of his time and energy in to a no-budget indie film with his producing partner and director, Soren Johnstone. Their film is ‘Play With Fire’. It has been a labour of love and hate for the past two years. To pay the bills Michael does freelance video and graphic design work. Although, he would much rather play with his filthy rock & roll band, The Fuckstixx, than pay the bills.

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JJ Lask, grew up in Manhattan’s Lower East Side, he never made it past the ninth grade, but to his credit he spent five years there. In 2002, Lask released his debut novel, ON THE ROAD WITH JUDAS; in 2007, he made his directorial debut with the film adaptation of the novel, which premiered in the Dramatic Competition at the Sundance Film Festival. JJ’s next film project, THIS IS NOT A PIPE, was selected for the Sundance Institute Screenwriters Lab.

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RE: Managing Expectations on the Festival Circuit

I’m very ambivalent about festivals — we’ve been to a lot with short films and had some really great experiences, but now that we’re about to take our feature THE RED MACHINE out into the world, we see festivals as only one small element of our overall release and marketing strategy.

I think part of the problem is that after going to so much effort to make exactly the film that you wanted to make, it’s really frustrating to put the film into a situation where it may not be able to shine its brightest. You really want to lure the right audience into your screenings - the people who will click with the movie. And those people for your film may or not be in attendance at a given festival.

It’s also hard to control how and when your movie screens. We’ve seen too many other filmmakers’ features screened way too dark, with unintelligible sound, at a horrendous time, in front of four people who are clearly not its demographic. And that doesn’t seem like a very solid foundation on which to build a movie’s community and future. Plus, it’s so easy for filmmakers to get demoralized from situations like that, or for movies to get unfairly tainted: “Oh…I saw [movie] at [festival]. It just lay there.”

So for all those reasons, we’re don’t want to rely on fests as the thing that will make or break our movie. We’d rather focus our energy on things that we can control ourselves.

I think one of the most important points of Zak’s post was what he and Hunter Weeks and Todd Sklar said about the importance of fests as a place to network, and I think that is critical. But at the same time, I’d also point out that depending on one’s personality, fests may not be the best way to do that. I spent a long time as a journalist, and because a big part of what I covered was movie technology, I went to the trade shows like NAB and Siggraph and places where manufacturers cluster for a few days of frenzied marketing and sensory overload. But I eventually stopped going, because I found that I could get deeper information and forge better relationships if I met with people at other times, when they weren’t so overwhelmed, and when we could sit down for a one-on-one conversation.

And even though we’ve made friends at festivals, the reality is that we’ve made far more valuable connections in other ways - introductions by mutual acquaintances, web correspondences, handing DVDs to people we meet through work, encounters based around collaboration.

As we plot out our strategy, the question we’ve been asking ourselves is what do films/filmmakers get out of a festivals, and can we get those things in other ways? In addition to networking/connections, the big ones I thought of were:

Exposure/Press
Sales
Ability to learn from watching an audience watch the movie
Prizes
Getting to go to cool places

What other things would others add to that list? And are there ways to get those as effectively outside the festival structure?

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STEPHANIE ARGY and her writing/directing partner, Alec Boehm, are in the final stages of post-production on their debut feature, The Red Machine, a Depression-era spy caper. Their previous work includes the award-winning short film Gandhi at the Bat (a mock newsreel about the little-known and totally fictional incident when Mahatma Gandhi pinch-hit for the New York Yankees in 1933), and Scene (a movie-within-a-movie-within-a-movie set in Scotland). Stephanie has also written hundreds of articles on filmmaking and movie-related technology, and for three years she edited a magazine on post production.

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